Legal
11-06 02:03 PM
Actually, not all he said was wrong.
I totally support reform in the H1 process with a target to reduce fraud. That will ultimately benefit people like us who will come here on H1B in future.
Please don't fire me for taking his side, I'm not. I'm in favour of market deciding what it needs, but I'm 100% against fraud, and all of know these so called consulting companies ARE indulging in fraud..
These sentiments are understandable.....but......
"I know the American people want a sensible system in place that gives their children a chance at these highly skilled jobs".
Here at best he is massively overblowing/ magnifying the abuse.
So the American children "don't have a chance" (?!!) now and these "reforms" will give them a chance?
I know groups that represent workers and visa holders want reforms
Interesting to note that he is even aware that visa holders want reforms. But we shouldn't be surprised if he and Dick intoduce a new bill offering stringent H1B restrictions with very little or no scope for EB backlog elimination.
I totally support reform in the H1 process with a target to reduce fraud. That will ultimately benefit people like us who will come here on H1B in future.
Please don't fire me for taking his side, I'm not. I'm in favour of market deciding what it needs, but I'm 100% against fraud, and all of know these so called consulting companies ARE indulging in fraud..
These sentiments are understandable.....but......
"I know the American people want a sensible system in place that gives their children a chance at these highly skilled jobs".
Here at best he is massively overblowing/ magnifying the abuse.
So the American children "don't have a chance" (?!!) now and these "reforms" will give them a chance?
I know groups that represent workers and visa holders want reforms
Interesting to note that he is even aware that visa holders want reforms. But we shouldn't be surprised if he and Dick intoduce a new bill offering stringent H1B restrictions with very little or no scope for EB backlog elimination.
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sc3
06-12 02:33 PM
I posted this before, but got nowhere (read: did not get the answer I hoped for), hopefully people with little bit more legalese can answer on this discrepancy.
According to 8usc 1153 (b)(3)A : "Visas shall be made available, in a number not to exceed 28.6 percent of such worldwide level, plus any visas not required for the classes specified in paragraphs (1) and (2), to the following classes of aliens who are not described in paragraph (2)".
Which means that EB3 should be getting the unused visa numbers from EB1 at around the same time as EB2, and not only if EB2 also does not need the numbers.
Is the reading that EB2 and EB3 should concurrently share the number on the right track? And if so, is USCIS rolling over the numbers in the right manner?
If EB3 were to get rolled over numbers only after EB2 is satisfied consuming EB1, the language would have been similarly worded as the last part of 1153(b)(3)A "... to the following classes of aliens who are not described in paragraph (2)".
According to 8usc 1153 (b)(3)A : "Visas shall be made available, in a number not to exceed 28.6 percent of such worldwide level, plus any visas not required for the classes specified in paragraphs (1) and (2), to the following classes of aliens who are not described in paragraph (2)".
Which means that EB3 should be getting the unused visa numbers from EB1 at around the same time as EB2, and not only if EB2 also does not need the numbers.
Is the reading that EB2 and EB3 should concurrently share the number on the right track? And if so, is USCIS rolling over the numbers in the right manner?
If EB3 were to get rolled over numbers only after EB2 is satisfied consuming EB1, the language would have been similarly worded as the last part of 1153(b)(3)A "... to the following classes of aliens who are not described in paragraph (2)".
asanghi
11-16 12:12 PM
Not sure if the social security taxes are for immigration benefits. Also, the taxes we pay are for several other services that we get in the US. Remember, even as non-citizens, we get millions of benefits such 911, clean roads, and the list will go on. Why do you think we want to immigrate?
I don't think this kind of an argument will hold any water with the press or lawmakers. There are other good arguments, and we should stick to them.
qplearn. You are right.
But as I have noticed, there is a lot of misinformation being spread around H1-B holders. One of those is that H1-B holders don't pay taxes. I have now read it at so many places, if I didn't know anything about H1-B visas, I would probably have believed it by now. So we really should make a point to mention that we pay taxes and social security.
I don't think this kind of an argument will hold any water with the press or lawmakers. There are other good arguments, and we should stick to them.
qplearn. You are right.
But as I have noticed, there is a lot of misinformation being spread around H1-B holders. One of those is that H1-B holders don't pay taxes. I have now read it at so many places, if I didn't know anything about H1-B visas, I would probably have believed it by now. So we really should make a point to mention that we pay taxes and social security.
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black_logs
04-18 01:32 PM
mrajatish, Thanks for taking the initiative, we have thought about such a drive in the past but later on gave up because the transaction fees on 25 dollars comes to about $4-$5, which is almost same for $50. But yes if people can just spare $25 than even $20 which comes to IV is good enough to reach the target.
How about this - let us have a couple of volunteers call/email people asking for $25 contribution. If we can get 1/2 of 3000 people contributing $25 each, we will get to about 120K. I am ready to take initiative in this - core group, can I get this initiative going?
How about this - let us have a couple of volunteers call/email people asking for $25 contribution. If we can get 1/2 of 3000 people contributing $25 each, we will get to about 120K. I am ready to take initiative in this - core group, can I get this initiative going?
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JazzByTheBay
07-17 10:06 PM
FIX LEGAL IMMIGRATION FIRST!
Of course, now we risk alienating the "undocumented worker" community, but is that such a big deal given we're legal and struggling and hoping that America does the right thing to get us out of this gray area... ?
On a different note, I can't wait to see what an EAD and AP looks like. When does the clock start ticking? Is it 90 days or 180 days? :)
I so want a vacation! :)
jazz
Lets ask Core not to just go with the temporary fix of July visa bulliten.
We might apply for EAD and AP but what if they throw our papers some where and repeat the same thing.
This time they will be very careful in issuing visa bulliten
In future very slow progression in visa dates...adjudicating cases very slowly always stating that due to july visa bulliten we have lots of cases ...we will not be able to do anything until we sort ou...blah blah...
This is not the fix
We should be firm with our goals...
Lets come up with some ideas....
Lets not ask what to do...lets think and come up with an idea...and then we shall decide if it works or not...
When some one first suggested flower campaign everyone took it as a joke...it was not implemented before some one sent the flowers and showed the receipt number...
I was following core for a long time...this the biggest response i have ever seen from the members...
Lets continue it...
My idea ...lets not just accept the temporary fix...we should fight the congress until they come up with a plan of fixing the GC issue.
The congress talks about fixing illegal immigration..Lets ask them to fix the legal immigration first.
Unless we are really strong about it...nothing can be accomplished..
They cant fix the existing legal system but they are ready with the plans of fixing illegal immigration...of course it failed but still they had big impact...
Of course, now we risk alienating the "undocumented worker" community, but is that such a big deal given we're legal and struggling and hoping that America does the right thing to get us out of this gray area... ?
On a different note, I can't wait to see what an EAD and AP looks like. When does the clock start ticking? Is it 90 days or 180 days? :)
I so want a vacation! :)
jazz
Lets ask Core not to just go with the temporary fix of July visa bulliten.
We might apply for EAD and AP but what if they throw our papers some where and repeat the same thing.
This time they will be very careful in issuing visa bulliten
In future very slow progression in visa dates...adjudicating cases very slowly always stating that due to july visa bulliten we have lots of cases ...we will not be able to do anything until we sort ou...blah blah...
This is not the fix
We should be firm with our goals...
Lets come up with some ideas....
Lets not ask what to do...lets think and come up with an idea...and then we shall decide if it works or not...
When some one first suggested flower campaign everyone took it as a joke...it was not implemented before some one sent the flowers and showed the receipt number...
I was following core for a long time...this the biggest response i have ever seen from the members...
Lets continue it...
My idea ...lets not just accept the temporary fix...we should fight the congress until they come up with a plan of fixing the GC issue.
The congress talks about fixing illegal immigration..Lets ask them to fix the legal immigration first.
Unless we are really strong about it...nothing can be accomplished..
They cant fix the existing legal system but they are ready with the plans of fixing illegal immigration...of course it failed but still they had big impact...
gk_2000
04-19 11:21 AM
This is what my attorney told me:
4 Year Bachelors in India + 5 years of Exp (excluding sponsoring emp)
3 Year Bachelors in India + 2 Yrs(Msc) /3 Years(MCA) + 5 years of Exp (excluding sponsoring emp)
4 Year Bachelors in India + US Masters + 2 years of Exp (excluding sponsoring emp)
All these qualify for EB2. Just make sure you Job Description requires eb2.
Also, consult with a leading attorney and show you employer, that this is doable.
Wounds, here comes ................ salt!
There is no requirement in INA regarding the number of years in degree.
ImmInfo Newsletter: The Culture of No: More on the USCIS challenge of educational credentials (http://www.imminfo.com/News/Newsletter/2011-4-15/USCIS-challenge-credentials.html)
They are likely to lose, if litigated against.. just saying
4 Year Bachelors in India + 5 years of Exp (excluding sponsoring emp)
3 Year Bachelors in India + 2 Yrs(Msc) /3 Years(MCA) + 5 years of Exp (excluding sponsoring emp)
4 Year Bachelors in India + US Masters + 2 years of Exp (excluding sponsoring emp)
All these qualify for EB2. Just make sure you Job Description requires eb2.
Also, consult with a leading attorney and show you employer, that this is doable.
Wounds, here comes ................ salt!
There is no requirement in INA regarding the number of years in degree.
ImmInfo Newsletter: The Culture of No: More on the USCIS challenge of educational credentials (http://www.imminfo.com/News/Newsletter/2011-4-15/USCIS-challenge-credentials.html)
They are likely to lose, if litigated against.. just saying
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paskal
05-23 03:42 PM
looks like ur sunny side is up and its still raw!..;-) (2 posts)
my point is: citizens matter..not voteless aliens..
we cannot have the same game plan as numbersusa...
all i am saying is..maybe we need a newer and innovative approach to get our voices heard.. One speaking head ..not a herd!
we do the "one speak" too.
but herd speak counts.
this is not my "opinion". this is the direct information we have been passed along by lawmaker offices themselves. and you are wrong. whether you vote or not, if you call an office they do listen. if you visit it they listen more. try it and see, i speak from many personal experiences.
if "non voters" voices were so usless, we would not be even this far along by now. when a lot of people voice and opinion- IT DOES GET HEARD.
please do the needful.
we do adopt other strategies too. each one has its own utility. it's own goal and it's own time. right now we need the calls.
my point is: citizens matter..not voteless aliens..
we cannot have the same game plan as numbersusa...
all i am saying is..maybe we need a newer and innovative approach to get our voices heard.. One speaking head ..not a herd!
we do the "one speak" too.
but herd speak counts.
this is not my "opinion". this is the direct information we have been passed along by lawmaker offices themselves. and you are wrong. whether you vote or not, if you call an office they do listen. if you visit it they listen more. try it and see, i speak from many personal experiences.
if "non voters" voices were so usless, we would not be even this far along by now. when a lot of people voice and opinion- IT DOES GET HEARD.
please do the needful.
we do adopt other strategies too. each one has its own utility. it's own goal and it's own time. right now we need the calls.
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gc_lover
07-18 01:47 PM
PD: Sept 2003/EB2
Reached USCIS: July 2nd 2007, 9:01 AM
Rejection: Unknown
Check Cashed: Don't know, company's check
Reached USCIS: July 2nd 2007, 9:01 AM
Rejection: Unknown
Check Cashed: Don't know, company's check
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Humhongekamyab
07-02 03:00 PM
I am not contradicting you but just guaging the effect on employers. I aggree that if complaints keep pouring in, the equation changes. But as of now, I see only a few employers on that website and they have just been barred for few years
Sorry for jumping the gun; it sounded like a contradiction. My bad.
If you look at the ICE's public releases you will see they start investigating a case months before they announce their conclusions. I know in some cases the employers will be able to get away with small fines but we should not let this stop us.
Sorry for jumping the gun; it sounded like a contradiction. My bad.
If you look at the ICE's public releases you will see they start investigating a case months before they announce their conclusions. I know in some cases the employers will be able to get away with small fines but we should not let this stop us.
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vgayalu
02-01 01:21 PM
Here are the few main reasons for retrogression to India and China etc are
1) When H1B quota is 65, 000 the GC visa number is 140, 000 . But when they increased H1B from 65,000 to 195,000 the did not incresed GC visa numbers.
2) There is no country quota in H1B ( other than Chile and one more country for 7,000) visas. So most of the H1b's are issued to few countries like India,China and Philippines. But when we come to GC visa there is country quota.
3) We all know about that ilegal immigrants used some GC numbers which are meant for EB people.
We need to educate the USCIS why and how we are suffering in getting GC.
there is no need and use of blaming Desi companies. I do not support any illegal activities like sale of Labour certifications .
We all know about supply and demand theory which causes black marketing.
Selling of approved labour ( which has old PD ) is also same thing.
1) When H1B quota is 65, 000 the GC visa number is 140, 000 . But when they increased H1B from 65,000 to 195,000 the did not incresed GC visa numbers.
2) There is no country quota in H1B ( other than Chile and one more country for 7,000) visas. So most of the H1b's are issued to few countries like India,China and Philippines. But when we come to GC visa there is country quota.
3) We all know about that ilegal immigrants used some GC numbers which are meant for EB people.
We need to educate the USCIS why and how we are suffering in getting GC.
there is no need and use of blaming Desi companies. I do not support any illegal activities like sale of Labour certifications .
We all know about supply and demand theory which causes black marketing.
Selling of approved labour ( which has old PD ) is also same thing.
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pappu
01-31 12:42 PM
it is good indeed. but i just happened to visit aila.org and it says this news "no more labor subs" is just a rumor of the day.
I wish the fee increase news was a rumor instead!
I wish the fee increase news was a rumor instead!
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cooldesi
04-02 08:53 PM
Unfotunately what you are saying sounds cool except that its not true.
Job offer has to be valid on the day petition filed or the specific date mentioned.
There is nothing cool here. Employer did mistake by charging money and candidate came to US uninvited.
Job offer has to be valid on the day petition filed or the specific date mentioned.
There is nothing cool here. Employer did mistake by charging money and candidate came to US uninvited.
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ajju
03-13 01:18 PM
One step closer.
With last year crisscrossing, EB2 India most apps are cleared upto september 2004. We should not have too many in 2004 except substitution cases.
Hope it will step into 2005 in next 4 months....
Atleast 5 in my office and 5 in friend circle :-)
But I wish what you say is true that not many left in 2003.. and dates move to 2004 and then further...
With last year crisscrossing, EB2 India most apps are cleared upto september 2004. We should not have too many in 2004 except substitution cases.
Hope it will step into 2005 in next 4 months....
Atleast 5 in my office and 5 in friend circle :-)
But I wish what you say is true that not many left in 2003.. and dates move to 2004 and then further...
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webm
08-27 12:31 PM
what DEC 2001 ? Is this for India China or rest of the world?
It's mostly EB3-I/ROW aswell..
It's mostly EB3-I/ROW aswell..
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gondalguru
07-18 12:02 PM
If USCIS decides to use the postmarked date as the filing date then it would be trickier for those whose PD was not current in June but have "filed" on June 29/30.
USCIS doesn't use postmark date. Don't sperad incorrect info and don't make other members anxious needlessly.
July 2nd filers are fine. Don't worry. Just wait for your receipt notices. We have been through a lot of stress in last month and its time to relax now (for those who already filed).
USCIS doesn't use postmark date. Don't sperad incorrect info and don't make other members anxious needlessly.
July 2nd filers are fine. Don't worry. Just wait for your receipt notices. We have been through a lot of stress in last month and its time to relax now (for those who already filed).
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07-16 06:07 PM
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08-12 01:11 PM
Now the country limit rule applies only to EB3-I and EB3-C.
Since EB2-ROW is always current, all the spillover goes to EB3-I/C and so they are not affected by per country limit rule.
EB3-I is the only sufferring category. Guys, we have to do something. Any suggestions on how to voice our concerns?
Since EB2-ROW is always current, all the spillover goes to EB3-I/C and so they are not affected by per country limit rule.
EB3-I is the only sufferring category. Guys, we have to do something. Any suggestions on how to voice our concerns?
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breddy2000
07-19 03:34 PM
Guys , if you have contibuted and pledged to contibute monthly, pls update your signature with that.
This would motivate non-contibuting members to contribute.
Just a suggestion....This has been done earlier and it worked to a certain extent.
This would motivate non-contibuting members to contribute.
Just a suggestion....This has been done earlier and it worked to a certain extent.
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mirage
08-12 03:01 PM
Guys we will not need to take the poll if all of us send these letters..
To, 08/05/2008
Charles Oppenheim / Visa Section
U.S. Department of State
2201 C Street NW
Washington, DC 20520
From,
Your Name/Your Address/EB-3 India Applicant
Priority Date: May 2003
Some City,
OK-2#####
Dear Sir/Madam,
Sub: Statistics on Employment Based AOS(Adjustment of Status) applications pending at USCIS under various categories
I am writing to you to express my sense of helplessness over the unpredictability of Visa Number allotment to various employment based category. I want to bring to your attention that it�s been nearly a �Decade� since we saw any meaningful Visa Date movement from year 2001 for EB-3 Green Card applicants from India.
It is important to know that despite of severe visa retrogression and random visa cutoff date movements, USICIS or DOS hasn�t released any official information on how many Adjustment of Status applications are pending at USCIS under various categories which leaves thousands of AOS(Adjustment of Status) applicants in complete darkness and dependent on guessing games by various Law firms.
A green card application requires enormous amount of efforts and money from the beneficiary and his/her employer. People who are waiting for 7-8 years now would have had already spent average $15,000-$20,000, in maintaining their statuses and keep the Green Card process going on. Being stuck in a green card process keeps us bonded with 1 employer, job type etc.
We need to know if there is any light at the end of the tunnel. We need to know for how long we have to live our life in limbo. If there is hope than we need to be patient and plan to live like that for another 1-2 years. But if there�s no light at the end of the tunnel than we need to move on with our careers and other family commitments. Only your office and USCIS can help us by releasing statistics on the number and categories of applications pending with USCIS people waiting in this category can plan their lives accordingly.
It will be a great help if DOS or USCIS could tell us about the number of AOS application pending at USCIS along with their Categories(EB-3, EB-2, EB-1) and chargeable country.
We have been waiting for a decade and continue to wait would it be reasonable to request you for some guidance with regards to the Visa allotment. I request your office to provide some statistics on home many Adjustment of Status applications are pending at USCIS.
We understand that you work with in the limits of the law as set by the Congress and are limited by various constraints that are beyond your agency realm of work. We appreciate your hard work and sincerely thank you for all the hard work.
God Bless America!
Thank you for you attention,
(Your Name OR EB-3 India Applicant )
Priority Date: April 02
Category: EB-3
Member ImmigrationVoice.Org
Copy Sent to
Honorable Secretary of State
Dr. Condoleezza Rice
U.S. Department of State
2201 C Street NW
Washington, DC 20520
Honorable Director, USCIS
U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service
20 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
Washington, D.C. 20529
Citizenship and Immigration Services Ombudsman
Department of Homeland Security
Attention: Case Problems
Mail Stop 1225
Washington, D.C. 20528-1225
Senator John Cornyn
Chairman - United States Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on
Immigration, Border Security and Citizenship
517 Hart Senate Office Bldg.
Washington, DC 20510
Main: 202-224-2934
Fax: 202-228-2856
Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren
Chairwoman - United States House Judiciary Subcommittee on Immigration, Citizenship,
Refugees, Border Security, and International Law
102 Cannon HOB
Washington, D.C. 20515
Telephone (202) 225-3072
To, 08/05/2008
Charles Oppenheim / Visa Section
U.S. Department of State
2201 C Street NW
Washington, DC 20520
From,
Your Name/Your Address/EB-3 India Applicant
Priority Date: May 2003
Some City,
OK-2#####
Dear Sir/Madam,
Sub: Statistics on Employment Based AOS(Adjustment of Status) applications pending at USCIS under various categories
I am writing to you to express my sense of helplessness over the unpredictability of Visa Number allotment to various employment based category. I want to bring to your attention that it�s been nearly a �Decade� since we saw any meaningful Visa Date movement from year 2001 for EB-3 Green Card applicants from India.
It is important to know that despite of severe visa retrogression and random visa cutoff date movements, USICIS or DOS hasn�t released any official information on how many Adjustment of Status applications are pending at USCIS under various categories which leaves thousands of AOS(Adjustment of Status) applicants in complete darkness and dependent on guessing games by various Law firms.
A green card application requires enormous amount of efforts and money from the beneficiary and his/her employer. People who are waiting for 7-8 years now would have had already spent average $15,000-$20,000, in maintaining their statuses and keep the Green Card process going on. Being stuck in a green card process keeps us bonded with 1 employer, job type etc.
We need to know if there is any light at the end of the tunnel. We need to know for how long we have to live our life in limbo. If there is hope than we need to be patient and plan to live like that for another 1-2 years. But if there�s no light at the end of the tunnel than we need to move on with our careers and other family commitments. Only your office and USCIS can help us by releasing statistics on the number and categories of applications pending with USCIS people waiting in this category can plan their lives accordingly.
It will be a great help if DOS or USCIS could tell us about the number of AOS application pending at USCIS along with their Categories(EB-3, EB-2, EB-1) and chargeable country.
We have been waiting for a decade and continue to wait would it be reasonable to request you for some guidance with regards to the Visa allotment. I request your office to provide some statistics on home many Adjustment of Status applications are pending at USCIS.
We understand that you work with in the limits of the law as set by the Congress and are limited by various constraints that are beyond your agency realm of work. We appreciate your hard work and sincerely thank you for all the hard work.
God Bless America!
Thank you for you attention,
(Your Name OR EB-3 India Applicant )
Priority Date: April 02
Category: EB-3
Member ImmigrationVoice.Org
Copy Sent to
Honorable Secretary of State
Dr. Condoleezza Rice
U.S. Department of State
2201 C Street NW
Washington, DC 20520
Honorable Director, USCIS
U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service
20 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
Washington, D.C. 20529
Citizenship and Immigration Services Ombudsman
Department of Homeland Security
Attention: Case Problems
Mail Stop 1225
Washington, D.C. 20528-1225
Senator John Cornyn
Chairman - United States Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on
Immigration, Border Security and Citizenship
517 Hart Senate Office Bldg.
Washington, DC 20510
Main: 202-224-2934
Fax: 202-228-2856
Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren
Chairwoman - United States House Judiciary Subcommittee on Immigration, Citizenship,
Refugees, Border Security, and International Law
102 Cannon HOB
Washington, D.C. 20515
Telephone (202) 225-3072
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reddy2cool
10-03 11:31 AM
Read again. I did not call the consultants sleazy. Also, I did not generalize them. My support is followed in the second line.
To me, this statement does not really deliver anything substantial or meaningful. Can you please reiterate?
Again, this statement does not serve as a counter-argument because this is a fictional scenario and does not hold importance here.
This is not an argument about accounting principles. Even if I tie your statement to my points, it does not compute. I am against labeling and generalizing EB-3 and I said that in my post. Please read my post again.
What's the message here, man? I mean seriously. Are you supporting malpractices or are you just confused?
Thanks for encouraging criminal acts in a very desperate manner.
Yes you called sleazy consultants..check your stmnt.
Everybody is trying to survive in this world ..diff people react differently to same situation..lying on resume/achievements is not illegal(reason y no body is prosecuted because of this fact..they are simply denied that benefit) however its unethical ..but iam not here to preach ethics.
A fictional scenario to check whether you are ready to take advantage of a loop hole if its in your favour.( A nice quote on this -Everybody likes discrimination when its in their favour and they dont raise their voice then)
My point to say all companies lie/manipulate things to certain extent..desi consultants atleast dont deprive lives like other BIG companies where shareholders are kept in dark until they realize that company is no more worth anything.
Iam not supporting any malpractises are anything anyways this is not a criminal thing its just immoral ..however if theres a loop hole and people want to chance it its upto them. They will be appropriately denied if they are caught, However its not like they are killing anybody.
Finally what do you think when even govt is planning to make illegals legals ..its respecting peoples wishes against legal things(ofcourse they get benifitted)Humanity/compassion is number one..rules are for our well being ..they are not hard and fast. Check for your reputation here i think it says some thing.
To me, this statement does not really deliver anything substantial or meaningful. Can you please reiterate?
Again, this statement does not serve as a counter-argument because this is a fictional scenario and does not hold importance here.
This is not an argument about accounting principles. Even if I tie your statement to my points, it does not compute. I am against labeling and generalizing EB-3 and I said that in my post. Please read my post again.
What's the message here, man? I mean seriously. Are you supporting malpractices or are you just confused?
Thanks for encouraging criminal acts in a very desperate manner.
Yes you called sleazy consultants..check your stmnt.
Everybody is trying to survive in this world ..diff people react differently to same situation..lying on resume/achievements is not illegal(reason y no body is prosecuted because of this fact..they are simply denied that benefit) however its unethical ..but iam not here to preach ethics.
A fictional scenario to check whether you are ready to take advantage of a loop hole if its in your favour.( A nice quote on this -Everybody likes discrimination when its in their favour and they dont raise their voice then)
My point to say all companies lie/manipulate things to certain extent..desi consultants atleast dont deprive lives like other BIG companies where shareholders are kept in dark until they realize that company is no more worth anything.
Iam not supporting any malpractises are anything anyways this is not a criminal thing its just immoral ..however if theres a loop hole and people want to chance it its upto them. They will be appropriately denied if they are caught, However its not like they are killing anybody.
Finally what do you think when even govt is planning to make illegals legals ..its respecting peoples wishes against legal things(ofcourse they get benifitted)Humanity/compassion is number one..rules are for our well being ..they are not hard and fast. Check for your reputation here i think it says some thing.
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