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  • qasleuth
    05-14 12:08 PM
    Finally, Thank you for your smart and intelligent attempt to dilute the members' focus. First you start off by saying that we have no allegiance to our home land and finally you deduce that country caps are OK.

    Inference: You are some psycho who is concerned that the glass ceiling of country caps in employment based system will be shattered sooner or later.


    I strongly disagree. He is no psycho, just a juvenile displaying 4th grade logic to exhort the masses. Comes back and 'moderates' his thread by 'channeling', thanking and asking for more brilliant ideas.
    nitinboston, do not brush this off as some kind of personal attack and you have bigger fish to fry...I urge you to read and reflect.



    This might come as a surprise to some of you, but someone needs to say it out loud. GET A LIFE FOLKS!!!! there is more to life then EB, GC and all. it seem all we desi's can think of is how to get a green card so we can live here with peace and never have to worry bout getting laid off or anything.


    Comes as a surprise to your fellow elementary schoolers ? Who are you to generalize ? That is what your immediate buddies or people YOU associate may be thinking.


    Few points:

    1) having gc is a privilege not a right.
    2) US has every right to choose whom they want to have in their country.


    Thanks for the breaking news !



    4) Considering the number of fraud's committed by Indian body shoppers and people who use them, i am not surprised USCIS is extra careful when it comes to Indian applications. Anyone who got his wife with no exp with software dev an h1b visa from some cheat in Jersey knows what i am talking bout . My freind got his wife an H1 after showing she knew software testing even though her major was fine arts and all she was good at was web surfing


    Does your friend or his wife know what kind of a backstabbing 'best and brightest' you are ? Just because your so called friend's wife got a job cheating (if I take your word for it), it does not give you the right to brush the whole category with the same color. Who are you trying to impress by pissing on everybody ?



    5) have a back up. i came here in 2001 as student and have seen it all. I am on h1b since 2004. i knew we have too many people whose sole aim in life is a American GC. to avoid becoming one of those who check processing dates first thing in morning, i applied for Canadian PR, got it in 8 months and i am not even gonna bother applying for labor, i-140 and all those precious life controlling documents.
    Wake up friends, you have options. Don't let your life depend on you application status.


    Again, thanks for the breaking news and brilliant suggestions. First off, stop generalizing and look beyond your pathetic 'immediate circle'. AND here is some breaking news for you: You have not seen it all, as I can clearly see by the quality of your arguments. Don't come onto a forum, hide behind the curtain of anonymity and shoot your mouth off giving 'plain' 'straight from your heart' BS.





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  • Humhongekamyab
    07-02 03:00 PM
    I am not contradicting you but just guaging the effect on employers. I aggree that if complaints keep pouring in, the equation changes. But as of now, I see only a few employers on that website and they have just been barred for few years

    Sorry for jumping the gun; it sounded like a contradiction. My bad.

    If you look at the ICE's public releases you will see they start investigating a case months before they announce their conclusions. I know in some cases the employers will be able to get away with small fines but we should not let this stop us.





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  • renjuzone
    07-17 01:11 PM
    signed too. most ppl have no idea how racist he is! he will surely be flogged alive if he ever lands foot in mexico, china or india





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  • qplearn
    11-16 01:28 PM
    How can people write this kind of information. Even I have come through and Indian company and I used to pay all taxes here which includes, Federal, Social, State etc.,

    This should end. People here should know that we are paying all taxes. And we are paying Social Security tax as well. Because of retrogression we don't yet know if we would get our green card. We still pay for it and we don't take a dime of it if we have to go back to India.

    We are helping the elders to have regular pay and this is what we hear? If there is a way as our friend said we should confront this legally.
    Rather we should worry about how to get SKIL passed. This guy from the Hudson institute is a nutcase like Lou Dobbs. Can we sue CNN? Don't get me wrong, my blood too boils when I read such nonsense. But getting emotional doesn't help.



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  • intrudah
    06-19 10:19 PM
    for fun :rabbit:

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    (carpe diem)





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  • whatamidoinghere
    02-12 06:22 PM
    visves, Longq, alisa...

    We have a difference of opinion on how the law is interpreted....

    I believe that visves interpretation is correct....But there is always a small chance that longq does followup with a lawsuit, USCIS would budge...

    if longq wants to gather some EB2 India/China and have a crack at suing USCIS as a personal level....( i.e.not using IV's resources).....I guess no one can stop him...I am EB3/India....So that suing does not benefit me anyway...

    The common denominator for all of us is increasing the total numbers......


    If members want to pursue certain things on their own at personal level..I cannot do anything ...after all it is a free country...


    There are other quirky ways the law is getting interpreted. Why are India, China, Phil, Mex singled out in the Visa bulletin and reported separately? Where I work there are as many Russian programmers as Indians and Chinese. Judging from how long it is taking my Russian colleagues to get their green cards even they are retrogressed because it takes them more than 5 years. But because they are bunched with ROW, they are Current in EB2 and can apply for 485 and their spouses can get EAD and work.

    If it is only 2800 visas per category per country.. lets be real.. even UK, Pakistan and other countries will be sending more than that number per year. But they are all bunched in EB2 ROW and can happily apply for EAD for their spouses. Not only that, they can even participate in the diversity visa lottery from which we are excluded.

    The problem is that we are trying to ask for too much and nothing will happen. First we have to get them to be transparent about how they interpret the law and make them release more data. We dont even know if we are being treated fairly. It is also unacceptable that we dont know how long we have to wait before our spouses can work. If we dont have correct data what are we actually fighting for?



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  • old_hat
    05-12 05:03 PM
    This might come as a surprise to some of you, but someone needs to say it out loud. GET A LIFE FOLKS!!!! there is more to life then EB, GC and all. it seem all we desi's can think of is how to get a green card so we can live here with peace and never have to worry bout getting laid off or anything.

    Few points:

    1) having gc is a privilege not a right.

    2) US has every right to choose whom they want to have in their country.

    3) If getting PR or citizenship of a western country is the goal there are many countries which have a fair point based system.

    4) Considering the number of fraud's committed by Indian body shoppers and people who use them, i am not surprised USCIS is extra careful when it comes to Indian applications. Anyone who got his wife with no exp with software dev an h1b visa from some cheat in Jersey knows what i am talking bout . My freind got his wife an H1 after showing she knew software testing even though her major was fine arts and all she was good at was web surfing :)

    5) have a back up. i came here in 2001 as student and have seen it all. I am on h1b since 2004. i knew we have too many people whose sole aim in life is a American GC. to avoid becoming one of those who check processing dates first thing in morning, i applied for Canadian PR, got it in 8 months and i am not even gonna bother applying for labor, i-140 and all those precious life controlling documents.

    Wake up friends, you have options. Don't let your life depend on you application status.

    Nitin

    People of every country have the right to get whoever they want. The only question is are those rules clear and also are the decisions being made for the correct reasons. If they announce that they do not want to give GCs to anyone people will make up their minds if they want to go now or whenever there visa expires based on their personal situation.





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  • paul
    04-07 05:56 PM
    There are many immigration lawyers with many clients in the same situation as us. Is there any plan to contact these lawyers in the hope that they could make their clients aware of this organization?



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  • senthil1
    05-24 09:50 PM
    May be US corporations can tactically support this bill because this bill will impact Indian bodyshoppers severly. For past 5 years US companies could not compete with Indian companies as they have more leverage on H1b. Now if Indian companies avoid H1b US companies can get any time they want as they can satisfy most of conditions

    Do you guys really think this bill will become a law that too in its current state and the added amendments? I seriously doubt it. If it is then dont you think the corporate business lobby that has fought really hard to increase the h1 b's to 115000 would have just sat mum while the H1 B fees were increased? I think this bill is just getting too absurd to become into law. I dont know but it would be interesting to hear what the businesses have to say with the increase in h1b fees.

    May be I am totally wrong but just thought of posting this because I have been reading so many depressing posts from everyone. Have hope and faith. When the going gets tough, the tough gets going. At this point we need to strategise, which I am sure IV is doing it excellently. We may need to make a few compromises but try to make friends with others who are lobbying.

    Please dont bombard me. Its just my thought. Please ignore this post if it offends you.





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  • cellphone
    04-20 03:51 PM
    ignore :D

    whatever the case is, this guy is doing it legally. Granted, he is taking advantage of the loop hole in the system. HOWEVER, it is legal. Trust me, we have taken advantage of several similar system loops holes in our lives.

    Everything is fair game as long as it is legal.



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  • gans
    07-11 12:23 PM
    For the rally, I think some members were looking for poster ideas. I just thought of some :

    Legal immigrants deserve 'honesty' (like 'amnesty')

    Skilled immigrants' aspirations 'killed'

    Green card applicants see Red

    I will try to come up with some more. If it's not good, no worries, I wouldn't take it personally:)





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  • maddipati1
    12-31 02:20 PM
    PLEASE HIGHLIGHT RE-CAPTURE OF WASTED VISAS
    AND CHANGE IN THE LAW TO VISA ROLL-OVER IN FUTURE.

    I think asking for increase in visa numbers works against us, especially in this economy. They may not be interested in removing per country quota too.

    But, we have a genuine and strong case regarding re-capture of wasted visas. The root of this evil (retrogression) is due to wasted visas in last 5/6 years. Its quite simple math, US didn't stop/reduce H1 visas who get into the GC pipe, but reduced the number of people going out of pipe, hence the congestion.

    Please make sure u highlight this one. This should be top most priority all the time.


    Dear Sir/Madam

    I have been in the country Legally on a student visa and then on a work visa for 10 years. I have been in line and have applied for a greencard 6 years ago and my application has been shuttled through various departments and agencies in a 4 step procedure and now being stalled for want of a number (An immigrant number) for a highly skilled immigrant. There are an estimated 1/2 million legal law abiding, tax paying individuals in a similar situation who need your attention. All of them are in the country on a work visa and are in line to recieve an employment based green card.

    The Employment based green card system is completely broken due to excessive delays and backlogs in petitions of nearly half a million highly skilled workers who are certified by US Government to be doing a job that no US citizen is willing, qualified or able to do. The delays in obtaining a permanent residency are due to 2 reasons: Numerical caps on employment-based green cards and processing delays in adjudication of files. Today the system takes anywhere between 6-12 years to grant Green cards to some of the best and brightest of the world who have chosen America as their future home.

    These future Americans are facing huge quality of life issues and their employers are facing difficulty in attracting more of the best and brightest of the world due to the broken system. The system prevents these workers from accepting promotions and switching jobs for the time-period it takes to process their files. By stagnating career growth and suffocating the creativity of the most innovative and technical minds of the world.
    The processing delays mock America�s respect for those who �play by the rules� and get in line. At the same time USCIS awards 10s of thousands of greencards to people every year outside of USA based on a pick or lottery.

    At the end of 2006, there were an estimated 200,000 employment-based principals waiting for labor certification, which is the first step in the U.S. immigration process. The number of pending I-140 applications, the second step of the immigration process, stood at 50,132. This was over seven times the number in 1996. The number of employment-based principals with approved I-140 applications and unfiled or pending I-485s, or the last step in the immigration process, was 309,823, a threefold increase from a decade earlier. Overall, there were 500,040 employment-based principals (in the three main employment visa categories of EB-1, EB-2, and EB-3) waiting for legal permanent residence. And the total including family members was 1,055,084.

    These numbers are particularly troubling when you consider there are only around 120,000 visas available for skilled immigrants in the EB-1, EB-2, and EB-3 categories. To make things worse, no more than 7 percent of the visas are allocated to immigrants from any one country. So immigrants from countries with large populations like India and China have the same number of visas available (8,400) as those from Iceland and Poland.

    At the same time, a debate rages about H-1B visas and this gets considerable press coverage. Companies such as Microsoft, Intel, and Oracle have been lobbying for visas to bring in skilled immigrants, but have focused on expanding the numbers of H-1B visas available. Why? Perhaps because workers on these visas are desirable, as they are less likely to leave their employers during the decade or more they are waiting for permanent residence.

    So we want skilled immigrants, but we want them to come on the right visas as permanent residents. The battles being fought are about bringing in more people with H-1B visas�not about those who are already here with them and stranded in �immigration limbo.�

    Unlike many of the problems facing the United States, this one isn�t hard to fix. All we have to do is to increase the number of visas offered to skilled workers in the EB-1, EB-2, and EB-3 categories from 120,000 to around 300,000 per year. And we need to remove the per-country limits. Instead of requiring graduates from top universities who receive jobs from American corporations to go through the tedious H-1B visa process, we should provide a direct path to permanent residence. We are now competing with the rest of the world for the best talent. We need to do all we can to attract and keep skilled immigrants, rather than bring them here temporarily, train them, and send them home.
    One more most important aspect is also to provide an oversight over USCIS. Presently, processing delays, lost paperwork, incourteous and bad customer service and above all a non-transparent system is what immigrants face. Why should legal tax paying immigrants wait in line patiently for half a decade and pay high fees to get lousy customer service and no accountability for fees?.


    Yours truely,
    Frustrated, law abiding, tax paying immigrant



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  • priti8888
    10-16 06:24 PM
    How do we know we're stuck in the namecheck process?

    Does the on-line status state that the application is in the namecheck 'phase' or something to that effect?

    Thanks,

    NO..online status wont chnage.

    U can either call the 1-800 # or make an infopass appointment 4-6 Months after your first FP. If u plan to call, make sure u call 3-4 times because you might get conflicting info





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  • nk2006
    12-11 11:02 AM
    Thanks for the effort.

    I posted my comments and my story (with links to couple articles that were published sometime back about my case in a newspaper).

    Lets add more stories. As someone already suggested lets concentrate on how our GC can contribute to the economy - buying a house/establishing a company/etc. I also quoted some of the recent studies that showed how immigrant entrepreneurs positively contributed to the economy (couple links from IV).



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  • willgetgc2005
    11-13 03:58 PM
    CIR will be as controversial as ever. SKIL, if any is our best bet.

    CIR seems to be a perpetual wait. Both parties will not close it.
    They need big issues to bicker and promise the electorate
    for the next election.

    IRAQ and CIR will be those big tickets they will use as levers.


    Sorry to sound negative, but it is just the way I see it.SKIL is our only option, IF AT ALL. CIR is just an illusion and who knows if our provisions will be in CIR even if it becomes a reality ??!!!


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  • 485Mbe4001
    07-20 11:28 AM
    There is a R2i or return to india forum on msn groups. they have a finance thread that discusses the finanacial aspects of returning to india and other finance related issues. You will find all your answers there.

    guys - i want to start a new forum on 401K ..

    want to discuss what happens to people who have 401k contribution and want to go back to india

    do we have to withdraw the 401K when we leave or can we withdraw it at a later date..

    can some one start a new thread since i cannot figure out how.. thank you



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  • Macaca
    11-09 01:13 PM
    I challenge the Journal to wave their labor force figures in the face of one of the hi-tech workers who have had to train their own replacement who is an H-1B visa holder. That's a smack in the face to the American worker and hardly an issue to take lightly.

    How is it possible to enforce that a worker who trains H1B does not get replaced?

    If this is happening then the fee increase is for training the replaced worker. This makes sense.

    The only questions are: What is the number of these cases? What is the rationale for amount increase to re-train these cases?

    I still don't see a rationale for paying for re-training anyone else!





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  • anzerraja
    07-19 06:21 PM
    Thanks Husker !

    We are getting started out as a new thread towards this administrative costs.



    As a couple of members mentioned that the core will not take any money from the funds members contributed, and its is really unfortunate that Aman + all the core team have to spend a lot of money out of their pocket. I am not a CPA but have seen that a lot of NOP do set aside administrative funds. That how the organization would work. The good ones will have only 10% of funds towards administrative cost. The BEST ONE LIKE IV has NONE (No money for administrative cost!!!). I am sure the core will not want to dive into the funds people are giving BUT can members send money seperately to set up an administrative fund.

    I like khodalmd idea, I know not everyone is going to chip in, but if we have atleat 1000 people we can all send $100, so that atleast the core team dont take on the financial burden of the entire community. People sent flowers, a lot of people sent flowers...I am sure atleat 1000 appreciative members can shell out $100 for IV.

    I am game for the $100 suggested by anzerraja (I think)

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    Contribution: Till now $300 + $50 re-occuring





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  • FraudGultee
    04-17 09:03 AM
    I dont see any issues here. he is applicable, he has required skill and education. he should be file for EB2





    eyeswe
    03-17 05:22 AM
    I thought EB2 vs EB3 is mainly determined by what your job requires.. You may have a Masters but if your JD does not require one, the company cannot file you on EB2.





    willigetagc
    08-26 12:26 PM
    Why cannot they just say it?. Why can’t they say that it will take 2 days to 22 days or 222 days to transfer the amount?, if someone needs to send money due to an emergency, they do it thinking that the money will be transferred in two or three days, a week maybe…

    Beats me! I don't know why they (the indians) do that. They make agressive promises and then fail to meet them. They should adopt the US business style of promising results in 5-7 business days and then deliver in 3-4 days. It then becomes the customer's headache to plan accordingly and they (the customers) are in fact delighted to get the work done in 3-4 days.

    (Never mind the fact that the work would actually take them less than 1-2 bus day ;))



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