logiclife
08-27 12:52 PM
What if DMV refuses to renew the license if I-94/H1 is extended for 1 year (mostly in the case of H1 extension beyond 6th year) but is not stamped on your passport. This happened with me. DMV officer insisted on visa stamped on my passport and he was not ready to accept the I-797 form which I was showing. Finally, I've to go to other DMV and count on my luck to get my license renewed.
This is a as much a problem with DMV as a problem with employees. I did not 100% agreed with your comments that it's a problem with an employer. Now a days even filing 6 months prior to expiration is not guranteed to give you a timely approval.
In Florida, no matter if you have 1 yr or 3yrs I-94/Visa, they only issue you a license for 1 year. Period. Florida..anyway sucks.
Also, can someone tell me, once you get an EAD, can we use that to get the license renewal?
Yes, I agree with you. Asking for valid visa stamp is too much, the latest I-797 and latest valid I-94 should be enough to get driver's license, because latest valid I-94 proves that you are legal and that's enough. Passport stamp is not neccesary to prove legal status.
The sad part is that employers should get involved with state legislature and state regulators, DMV etc to make sure their foriegn workers have ability to get driver's license based on approved I-797. Its a mess.
This is a as much a problem with DMV as a problem with employees. I did not 100% agreed with your comments that it's a problem with an employer. Now a days even filing 6 months prior to expiration is not guranteed to give you a timely approval.
In Florida, no matter if you have 1 yr or 3yrs I-94/Visa, they only issue you a license for 1 year. Period. Florida..anyway sucks.
Also, can someone tell me, once you get an EAD, can we use that to get the license renewal?
Yes, I agree with you. Asking for valid visa stamp is too much, the latest I-797 and latest valid I-94 should be enough to get driver's license, because latest valid I-94 proves that you are legal and that's enough. Passport stamp is not neccesary to prove legal status.
The sad part is that employers should get involved with state legislature and state regulators, DMV etc to make sure their foriegn workers have ability to get driver's license based on approved I-797. Its a mess.
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shivarajan
02-23 03:04 AM
Albeit silly.... I was thinking, Ok... at least now folks here will realize that not in IT but Indians are talented/can shine is many fields and that's the way it is. The reality being there are more talented people in that country who never got chance global recognition (until the ice was broken by the IT industry)... More talented people --> Hence more immigrant (not a rocket science).
"So why the disparity where for some folks wait for a decade to get the GC and other not, and the it's just b'cos they are nationals from a country from which more people immigrate to explore global arenas! (not a inherent fault of their own):D"
"So why the disparity where for some folks wait for a decade to get the GC and other not, and the it's just b'cos they are nationals from a country from which more people immigrate to explore global arenas! (not a inherent fault of their own):D"
deafTunes123
10-02 08:34 AM
Children born outside India and whose parents are Indian passport holders are not eligible for OCI Cards.
Source:
OCI - Steps to Apply-Consulate General of India, New York, U.S.A. - indiacgny.org - www.indiacgny.org (http://indiacgny.org/php/showContent.php?linkid=175&partid=100&sub=sub4)
Source:
OCI - Steps to Apply-Consulate General of India, New York, U.S.A. - indiacgny.org - www.indiacgny.org (http://indiacgny.org/php/showContent.php?linkid=175&partid=100&sub=sub4)
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shimul99
10-24 03:56 PM
It was current for July. so i mailed my application on june 29, 2007, expected to reach USCIS on july 2nd, 2007.
shimul99
first of all congrats. but i have a question.
you said you are EB3 ROW (Bangladesh) but you applied your I-485 on June 29, 2007 with a Priority Date of Feb 06.
But on June 2007 (just before the VB fiasco) the Visa Bulletin for EB3 ROW was caught up to June 05 (http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_3236.html). But your EB3 ROW PD is Feb 06. So how is that possible?
Only EB2 ROW is current. Are you sure you are not EB2? You can confirm this by looking at your 140 notice. Otherwise you must have sent out your application June 29 (Fri) in the hope of reaching USCIS by July 1 or 2 (Sun or Mon). That's the only way I could make sense of this.
Either way man, your stars must all lined up or something man. You are indeed very lucky.
the reason I am pestering you is becoz I too am EB3 ROW with PD of Mar 06 and I filed on Aug with an approved 140. I am now kicking myself for not mailing out June 29 Fri.
FU*K*NG USCIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
shimul99
first of all congrats. but i have a question.
you said you are EB3 ROW (Bangladesh) but you applied your I-485 on June 29, 2007 with a Priority Date of Feb 06.
But on June 2007 (just before the VB fiasco) the Visa Bulletin for EB3 ROW was caught up to June 05 (http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_3236.html). But your EB3 ROW PD is Feb 06. So how is that possible?
Only EB2 ROW is current. Are you sure you are not EB2? You can confirm this by looking at your 140 notice. Otherwise you must have sent out your application June 29 (Fri) in the hope of reaching USCIS by July 1 or 2 (Sun or Mon). That's the only way I could make sense of this.
Either way man, your stars must all lined up or something man. You are indeed very lucky.
the reason I am pestering you is becoz I too am EB3 ROW with PD of Mar 06 and I filed on Aug with an approved 140. I am now kicking myself for not mailing out June 29 Fri.
FU*K*NG USCIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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logiclife
05-29 12:54 PM
I tend to disagrees with your comments, firstly please dont call this a stupid event, as a lot of young students strive to win this competition. In order to lead you have to follow, I have come across some smart ass Indians who love to talk and give directions, but they miss whole chunk of substance in their directions. (I don't mean to target you or disrespect any one else up here).
Your commments on parents motivating their childeren to strive for success in their lives, their is nothing wrong in that, would you rather have them go smoke dope and jerk around to waste their time? I am indian and proud to be, , above all proud that my parents pushed me to excel and do better with the opportunities granted to me.
However it is some desi companies who brought in the trend of lying and faking to get thie ways. But believe me , they dont get much further in their lives. I am glad strict restrictions are imposed on these companies, and the type of consultants they bring on board.
Is it fair that the person doing Masters from this country be put in the same boat as a fresh of boat from India?
Good Luck!
The famous quote is: You can only fool me once!
I would further say, what is the difference between you and anti-immigrants in this matter ? You are saying that certain class of people should be kept out of the job market and you have your reasons. Since you are probably US educated, you want those who are non-US educated out of competition. Do not give me the BS reason that those with non-US education are the only ones that fake their resume. As far as faking the resume goes, or bragging goes, its up to the individual. It could be anyone, including Presidents that fake resumes or pad it with embellishments.
The anti-immigrants are saying that they were born here so those who were not born here should be kept of out the job market to reduce competition (and spur wage inflation, which they would call fair wages, but its really wage inflation, the kind that drowned GM and Chrysler).
Would it not behoove you to say that the decision of who should be hired and who shouldn't be hired must be deferred to the employers and not the Government or any other special interest ? As an employer, are they not the most capable party here to make that decision and evaluate their options ? Shouldn't people who create wealth (employers, businesses) have the prerogative to decide who they want to hire to help them create wealth ?
Your commments on parents motivating their childeren to strive for success in their lives, their is nothing wrong in that, would you rather have them go smoke dope and jerk around to waste their time? I am indian and proud to be, , above all proud that my parents pushed me to excel and do better with the opportunities granted to me.
However it is some desi companies who brought in the trend of lying and faking to get thie ways. But believe me , they dont get much further in their lives. I am glad strict restrictions are imposed on these companies, and the type of consultants they bring on board.
Is it fair that the person doing Masters from this country be put in the same boat as a fresh of boat from India?
Good Luck!
The famous quote is: You can only fool me once!
I would further say, what is the difference between you and anti-immigrants in this matter ? You are saying that certain class of people should be kept out of the job market and you have your reasons. Since you are probably US educated, you want those who are non-US educated out of competition. Do not give me the BS reason that those with non-US education are the only ones that fake their resume. As far as faking the resume goes, or bragging goes, its up to the individual. It could be anyone, including Presidents that fake resumes or pad it with embellishments.
The anti-immigrants are saying that they were born here so those who were not born here should be kept of out the job market to reduce competition (and spur wage inflation, which they would call fair wages, but its really wage inflation, the kind that drowned GM and Chrysler).
Would it not behoove you to say that the decision of who should be hired and who shouldn't be hired must be deferred to the employers and not the Government or any other special interest ? As an employer, are they not the most capable party here to make that decision and evaluate their options ? Shouldn't people who create wealth (employers, businesses) have the prerogative to decide who they want to hire to help them create wealth ?
aeroterp
08-27 04:49 PM
I can confirm that DC allows you to renew online without looking at your immigration status. If you live in DC, make sure you renew online as I got it renewed for 4 years online.
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chi_shark
09-29 07:55 PM
I am very depressed! my lawyer who is doing my I-485 has advised that if she was to be concerned with her representing me, she would advise against me starting the company. basically, she said, USCIS can read this as an intent to leave the permanent employer for self employment. my business plan was to be in non-IT business. she said that if i am making enough money in the business, it will be hard to prove that i intend to continue in the job while having this business on the side...
well! best of luck to you guys! go on sharing your stories.
well! best of luck to you guys! go on sharing your stories.
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gcsomeday
07-11 11:22 AM
http://www.usinpac.com/issue_details.asp?News_ID=4
They have got nothing for people like us on their agenda. Another bunch of political opportunists.
They have got nothing for people like us on their agenda. Another bunch of political opportunists.
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vinodp1978
06-28 02:12 PM
Delhirocks,
Thanks for the feedback.. i will most likely be doing the same...wait for PP 140 to comeback and convert. I think its safer to work on a 3yr h1b than ead. But then while filing for h1b ext the dates must be retrogressed and not current.
Thanks for the feedback.. i will most likely be doing the same...wait for PP 140 to comeback and convert. I think its safer to work on a 3yr h1b than ead. But then while filing for h1b ext the dates must be retrogressed and not current.
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pmpforgc
02-19 07:29 AM
Hi
While waiting for GC ( which may take several more yrs !!!) I want to go for Life Insurance, Since I am at age of about 40 its need to be done, though I have enough of that in India, not in US. In that regards I just started evaluating different options. Plesase share your comments and experiences during search of Life Insurance.
(1) which is better to go for term life or whole life
(2) I started contacting agents (mainly desi) and they recommend Whole life ( if you can afford premium). They tell that it is ultimately result in Saving, Dividend etc. So my question is Does paying EXTRA PREMIUM ( i think it will be substantially high for whole life) RESULT in EQUIVALENT OF SAVINGS OR DIVIDENS? or just agents recommends that because they get more commissions with that?
(3) I see lot of DESI agents in New york Life, So is it due to their speciallity in Indian Community market? Does they offer competative products?
(4) How to search of best rate for Whole or Term Life, Does Select qoute and Other such agencies are good to their promise of getting low cost? Does companys that we get through Select qoute give Insurance to NON-PERMANENT RESIDENTS like US
(5) Which reliable comanies offer Life insurance to non-greencard holders (menas H-1B holders)
(6) please list websites that you thnik are good as per your experience while searching and evaluating different Life Insurance Options?
thanks for your insput which will help several members like me.
P.S subscribed monthly contibutions to IV and participating in its other faxing and email campaigns.
While waiting for GC ( which may take several more yrs !!!) I want to go for Life Insurance, Since I am at age of about 40 its need to be done, though I have enough of that in India, not in US. In that regards I just started evaluating different options. Plesase share your comments and experiences during search of Life Insurance.
(1) which is better to go for term life or whole life
(2) I started contacting agents (mainly desi) and they recommend Whole life ( if you can afford premium). They tell that it is ultimately result in Saving, Dividend etc. So my question is Does paying EXTRA PREMIUM ( i think it will be substantially high for whole life) RESULT in EQUIVALENT OF SAVINGS OR DIVIDENS? or just agents recommends that because they get more commissions with that?
(3) I see lot of DESI agents in New york Life, So is it due to their speciallity in Indian Community market? Does they offer competative products?
(4) How to search of best rate for Whole or Term Life, Does Select qoute and Other such agencies are good to their promise of getting low cost? Does companys that we get through Select qoute give Insurance to NON-PERMANENT RESIDENTS like US
(5) Which reliable comanies offer Life insurance to non-greencard holders (menas H-1B holders)
(6) please list websites that you thnik are good as per your experience while searching and evaluating different Life Insurance Options?
thanks for your insput which will help several members like me.
P.S subscribed monthly contibutions to IV and participating in its other faxing and email campaigns.
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anilsal
11-08 09:57 AM
hey friends,
I saw that Logiclife mentioned that the head will be from michigan. I am from michigan and a lot of my buddies also visit this site regularly. Let us know if we can make a difference. Please let us know what can we do to help our cause here. I am ready to drive, meet, talk to any one I can to push things here. I dont know how much of an impact that would be, but even a little can help.
thanks
Please pm me with any suggestions or ideas.
Hey start a local chapter of IV in MI such that other volunteers in future also can join and work from under the same umbrella.
I saw that Logiclife mentioned that the head will be from michigan. I am from michigan and a lot of my buddies also visit this site regularly. Let us know if we can make a difference. Please let us know what can we do to help our cause here. I am ready to drive, meet, talk to any one I can to push things here. I dont know how much of an impact that would be, but even a little can help.
thanks
Please pm me with any suggestions or ideas.
Hey start a local chapter of IV in MI such that other volunteers in future also can join and work from under the same umbrella.
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dixie
08-01 11:06 AM
People with grown up kids, I guess would prefer Canada over India. There are many problems starting with the education system, reservations etc. For kids who had been studying here from KG through grade 8-9 it's difficult to get dragged in the rat race in India, especially for normal kids who don't belong to any reservation category.
Yes in Canada we know that finding a job is going to be difficult and we should brain-storm about how to tackle this problem?
What skillsets are in demand? Anybody has idea?
I also have a wild idea like US companies may look at Canada as a outsourcing destination if given very competitive package. One of the biggest advantage will be proximity to the US, so better control over quality etc. That may not turn into a big boom but is a possibility.
I think the said "outsourcing" is already happening to a limited degree .. in fact many IT jobs in Canada are nothing but canadian offices of US firms. But it is never going to reach the extent of India or China, mainly because the savings in terms of cost are not as big.
The biggest problem I find with the canadian job market is limited demand for highly specialized IT skills .. so finding any job will not be a problem; but finding one commensurate with your qualifications and experience will be hard.Secondly, there are fewer tech centers than the US .. so one cannot afford to be too fussy about location etc. As far as I know, only Toronto and surrounding areas in Ontario would qualify as a "tech hub" in the US sense.
Yes in Canada we know that finding a job is going to be difficult and we should brain-storm about how to tackle this problem?
What skillsets are in demand? Anybody has idea?
I also have a wild idea like US companies may look at Canada as a outsourcing destination if given very competitive package. One of the biggest advantage will be proximity to the US, so better control over quality etc. That may not turn into a big boom but is a possibility.
I think the said "outsourcing" is already happening to a limited degree .. in fact many IT jobs in Canada are nothing but canadian offices of US firms. But it is never going to reach the extent of India or China, mainly because the savings in terms of cost are not as big.
The biggest problem I find with the canadian job market is limited demand for highly specialized IT skills .. so finding any job will not be a problem; but finding one commensurate with your qualifications and experience will be hard.Secondly, there are fewer tech centers than the US .. so one cannot afford to be too fussy about location etc. As far as I know, only Toronto and surrounding areas in Ontario would qualify as a "tech hub" in the US sense.
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GCwaitforever
04-09 04:39 PM
Another problem is caste divisions. There is always some kind of discrimination in India. Politicians use it to the hilt.
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punjabi
04-08 12:13 PM
I didn't do any mathematical calculations, but my guess is:
EB2 I:
Practically speaking: EB2 I moves to 01 APR 2004
Optimistically speaking: EB2 I moves to 01 JUNE 2004
Frantically speaking: EB2 I moves to 01 JAN 2005
EB3 I:
EB3 I move forward by at least a quarter.
Just plain guess, my friends.
EB2 I:
Practically speaking: EB2 I moves to 01 APR 2004
Optimistically speaking: EB2 I moves to 01 JUNE 2004
Frantically speaking: EB2 I moves to 01 JAN 2005
EB3 I:
EB3 I move forward by at least a quarter.
Just plain guess, my friends.
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WithoutGCAmigo
06-18 10:52 AM
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javadeveloper
12-31 04:22 PM
You are absolutely right, It�s nature and as you said and I quote �nature created nature which is created by nature and so on...�
And for some people to which you call �nature� they call it �God�
Just different terminology, they do the prayer of nature (for some its God) and they never judge the acts of nature (God).
I feel comfortable with these words "Nature Bless everyone" ,Not with the words like "God Bless everyone".
May be As a Hindu I'll start visualizing Shiva/Vishnu/brahma/Rama/Krishna etc.. when someone says "GOD" .For Christians they may start visualizing Jesus and Allah for Muslims.
And for some people to which you call �nature� they call it �God�
Just different terminology, they do the prayer of nature (for some its God) and they never judge the acts of nature (God).
I feel comfortable with these words "Nature Bless everyone" ,Not with the words like "God Bless everyone".
May be As a Hindu I'll start visualizing Shiva/Vishnu/brahma/Rama/Krishna etc.. when someone says "GOD" .For Christians they may start visualizing Jesus and Allah for Muslims.
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vin13
03-16 09:35 AM
guys, already suffering that pain. Please enough of the beating...
I have requested for your valuable advise. But if you ask me why?no reason.... Why do we have many criminals? Why? Why? Why? I believe every one is not perfect in any sense, some get caught, some not....
Thanks pal
please update your profile.
I have requested for your valuable advise. But if you ask me why?no reason.... Why do we have many criminals? Why? Why? Why? I believe every one is not perfect in any sense, some get caught, some not....
Thanks pal
please update your profile.
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jayZinDC
04-02 12:37 PM
First of all learn to "conduct" yourself in public before working for the semi conductor industry. What is gulti mentality pls explain? Second of all you chose to come here with the constraints that were imposed on you, did you have the balls to question the immigration officer as to why your wife could not work? If you think this is hell my friend you are in for a rude surprise.
When you want answers for your question there is a method for asking it, pls follow that method and you will get your answers, there are more people willing to help here than you will find anywhere. Ranting about communities will get you no where, now apologize and ask your question, someone will answer.
Malibuguy007 , you seem to me a guy who could save 2-3000 dollars per month and think you are in heaven(Typical GULTI mentality) . These are the points on basis of which i called life of H1 hell
1. Your spouse can't work . Think about their self esteem and self respect they are loosing.
2. You don't know about your future if tomorrow you loose your job , you will be kicked from this country.
Tell me what is hell then ? Don't think its just about counting dollars , think about your life stability and about your family members too. Try to come out of Sambhar-Rice world(thats the way you save money here and call US heaven). Live with pride ,ok . Fight for being treated like H1 ( HIGHLY SKILLED PROFESSIONAL) not slaves.
I hope now you feel we are in hell.
PS : I work with one of best semiconductor companies in world and earn decent salary .
All GULTIs , start giving me red and i don't give a** for that.
When you want answers for your question there is a method for asking it, pls follow that method and you will get your answers, there are more people willing to help here than you will find anywhere. Ranting about communities will get you no where, now apologize and ask your question, someone will answer.
Malibuguy007 , you seem to me a guy who could save 2-3000 dollars per month and think you are in heaven(Typical GULTI mentality) . These are the points on basis of which i called life of H1 hell
1. Your spouse can't work . Think about their self esteem and self respect they are loosing.
2. You don't know about your future if tomorrow you loose your job , you will be kicked from this country.
Tell me what is hell then ? Don't think its just about counting dollars , think about your life stability and about your family members too. Try to come out of Sambhar-Rice world(thats the way you save money here and call US heaven). Live with pride ,ok . Fight for being treated like H1 ( HIGHLY SKILLED PROFESSIONAL) not slaves.
I hope now you feel we are in hell.
PS : I work with one of best semiconductor companies in world and earn decent salary .
All GULTIs , start giving me red and i don't give a** for that.
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praveenuppaluri
04-06 02:01 PM
SVN,
this poll is a good idea to understand what most of the members expect from CORE. I for one am looking for any updates about (1) new bills being proposed that we can support - calls, faxes etc and (2) any infomation that can help to "predict" whats happening with USCIS efforts to use all visa # (yeah, sorry.. had to use predict and USCIS in same sentence) (3) updates on efforts towards FOIA, country caps remoal, capture of unused #s, .... and anything and everything you can throw at me about immigration...
but I also understand that most of these lobbying efforts are done in the back ground and its not good idea to share anything in these times. who knows, may be there is an anti-immigrant lurking around (ofcourse paying $$ to become Donor, become senior member whatever) to get inside information. I would rather trust the CORE to do their work and give me directions when they see fit.. like meeting local senators etc..
transparancy is good as long as it doesn't hurt the cause. I agree with the fact that we pooled $10K in March for FOIA and core gave the game plan and now everyone who contributed wants to know. fine. but you can't expect core to have a goal a month just to get contributions, this is a grass-roots organization and any highly skilled legal immigrant should be able to donate $25 without waiting for updates every week.. I don't think asking updates every week because you contributed $25 or $50 is fair.. just my thoughts..
this poll is a good idea to understand what most of the members expect from CORE. I for one am looking for any updates about (1) new bills being proposed that we can support - calls, faxes etc and (2) any infomation that can help to "predict" whats happening with USCIS efforts to use all visa # (yeah, sorry.. had to use predict and USCIS in same sentence) (3) updates on efforts towards FOIA, country caps remoal, capture of unused #s, .... and anything and everything you can throw at me about immigration...
but I also understand that most of these lobbying efforts are done in the back ground and its not good idea to share anything in these times. who knows, may be there is an anti-immigrant lurking around (ofcourse paying $$ to become Donor, become senior member whatever) to get inside information. I would rather trust the CORE to do their work and give me directions when they see fit.. like meeting local senators etc..
transparancy is good as long as it doesn't hurt the cause. I agree with the fact that we pooled $10K in March for FOIA and core gave the game plan and now everyone who contributed wants to know. fine. but you can't expect core to have a goal a month just to get contributions, this is a grass-roots organization and any highly skilled legal immigrant should be able to donate $25 without waiting for updates every week.. I don't think asking updates every week because you contributed $25 or $50 is fair.. just my thoughts..
cnathani
01-09 08:50 AM
WaldenPond,
I have just contributed using paypal. I really appreciate the efforts you are putting into this. Is there any introductory email that can be sent to prospective members to spur their interest and compel them to come join and contribute?
I would like to send such an email to my contacts. I am sure many people can use that.
Thanks
I have just contributed using paypal. I really appreciate the efforts you are putting into this. Is there any introductory email that can be sent to prospective members to spur their interest and compel them to come join and contribute?
I would like to send such an email to my contacts. I am sure many people can use that.
Thanks
akela_topchi
01-14 02:04 PM
This is not for legal immigrants. It is clearly directed towards legalizing the illegals - who obviously would not leave US once they get a chance to enter.
Economy is in trouble so immigration will be on back-burner.
Still if Democrats chose to fix (really??) immigration, I think they would try to address concerns of Hispanic voters by legalize illegals and fixing family based immigration issues. This would help increase Hispanic votes, and support in 2010 elections. New Hispanic voters may make up for the non-Hispanic US votes they lose in the process.
If they address just legal immigration, it will anger both Hispanics, non-Hispanics groups and their votes in 2010 elections. So it's not a possibility.
Here are a **few equations that make it easier to understand. :) :)
VB = W + A + H + O <--- 2008 Dem vote bank.
(W: Whites, A: African American, H: Hispanics, O: Others. )
VB1 = (W - ΔW1) + (A) + (H + ΔH1) + (O) <-- pro-illegal policies
So Δ(vb1-vb) = ΔH1 - ΔW1 (it may give them some additional votes.)
VB2 = (W - ΔW2) + (A) + (H - ΔH2) + (O) <-- pro-legal policies
and Δ(vb2-vb) = - ΔH2 - ΔW2 (significant loss of white and Hispanic votes )
Based on this - Dems can't afford to be seen as Pro-legal.
** These equations are described as "Great breakthrough in computational politics" - by rb_248. :) :)
Economy is in trouble so immigration will be on back-burner.
Still if Democrats chose to fix (really??) immigration, I think they would try to address concerns of Hispanic voters by legalize illegals and fixing family based immigration issues. This would help increase Hispanic votes, and support in 2010 elections. New Hispanic voters may make up for the non-Hispanic US votes they lose in the process.
If they address just legal immigration, it will anger both Hispanics, non-Hispanics groups and their votes in 2010 elections. So it's not a possibility.
Here are a **few equations that make it easier to understand. :) :)
VB = W + A + H + O <--- 2008 Dem vote bank.
(W: Whites, A: African American, H: Hispanics, O: Others. )
VB1 = (W - ΔW1) + (A) + (H + ΔH1) + (O) <-- pro-illegal policies
So Δ(vb1-vb) = ΔH1 - ΔW1 (it may give them some additional votes.)
VB2 = (W - ΔW2) + (A) + (H - ΔH2) + (O) <-- pro-legal policies
and Δ(vb2-vb) = - ΔH2 - ΔW2 (significant loss of white and Hispanic votes )
Based on this - Dems can't afford to be seen as Pro-legal.
** These equations are described as "Great breakthrough in computational politics" - by rb_248. :) :)
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