dish
09-26 06:00 PM
Instead of asking for "filing for I-485 even when Priority date is not current" ,
why not we ask for "filing for EAD and Advance Parole based on an approved I-140.".
The net effect is the same. By the present law EAD and Advance parole is issued based on a pending I-485. Instead , EAD and Parole could be issued based on on an Approved Immigrant petition - ie I-140.
Even if we are allowed to file for I-485 when priority dates are not current, the application for adjustment of status will not be considered without being a visa date available.
why not we ask for "filing for EAD and Advance Parole based on an approved I-140.".
The net effect is the same. By the present law EAD and Advance parole is issued based on a pending I-485. Instead , EAD and Parole could be issued based on on an Approved Immigrant petition - ie I-140.
Even if we are allowed to file for I-485 when priority dates are not current, the application for adjustment of status will not be considered without being a visa date available.
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Slowhand
07-18 09:32 AM
See below:
Taken from www.immigration-law.com
07/18/2007: Reinstatement of Original July Visa Bulletin and Uncertain Impact on Pre-July "Tagged" EB-485 Applications and Processing Time of I-485 Applications in the Future
The other EB-485 waiters will turn out to be a big victim to the DOS/USCIS decision yesterday. Since there will be no visa numbers available until October 1, 2007, the people whose EB-485 applications were "not tagged" before July 1 will experience a tremendous delay in obtaining the green card. When it comes to the delays in obtaining the green card approvals, the new filers in July and those filers before August 17 will also witness a tremendous delays and will have to endure a long and long journey to leave the pipeline of the green card process. Why? As we reported quite earlier in this visa fiasco, we even estimated that approximately 750,000 individual EB-485 applications can be poured into the system during this unusual period of visa number availability as affected by the upcoming filing fee increases and more importantantly the anticipated potential huge visa number retrogression ahead during when they may not be able to file their 485 applications because of the retrogression. After all, the system has only 140,000 numbers for the entire EB categories for each year. Go figure! What would look like the waiting time for the current EB-485 filers and the current EB-485 filers before July 1, 2007!
Mr.Oh's opinion is flawed on many counts but most of all assuming what he says is correct, this delay will be/would have been the same either way. i.e the 750000 applicants will apply all at once or at regular intervals. The bright side is that spouses will get their EADs.
Mr.Oh also assumes that USCIS processing procedure and speed will not change.
It sounds like fluff reporting that popular media does. All fluff, no value.:D
Taken from www.immigration-law.com
07/18/2007: Reinstatement of Original July Visa Bulletin and Uncertain Impact on Pre-July "Tagged" EB-485 Applications and Processing Time of I-485 Applications in the Future
The other EB-485 waiters will turn out to be a big victim to the DOS/USCIS decision yesterday. Since there will be no visa numbers available until October 1, 2007, the people whose EB-485 applications were "not tagged" before July 1 will experience a tremendous delay in obtaining the green card. When it comes to the delays in obtaining the green card approvals, the new filers in July and those filers before August 17 will also witness a tremendous delays and will have to endure a long and long journey to leave the pipeline of the green card process. Why? As we reported quite earlier in this visa fiasco, we even estimated that approximately 750,000 individual EB-485 applications can be poured into the system during this unusual period of visa number availability as affected by the upcoming filing fee increases and more importantantly the anticipated potential huge visa number retrogression ahead during when they may not be able to file their 485 applications because of the retrogression. After all, the system has only 140,000 numbers for the entire EB categories for each year. Go figure! What would look like the waiting time for the current EB-485 filers and the current EB-485 filers before July 1, 2007!
Mr.Oh's opinion is flawed on many counts but most of all assuming what he says is correct, this delay will be/would have been the same either way. i.e the 750000 applicants will apply all at once or at regular intervals. The bright side is that spouses will get their EADs.
Mr.Oh also assumes that USCIS processing procedure and speed will not change.
It sounds like fluff reporting that popular media does. All fluff, no value.:D
cagcwait
02-21 05:00 PM
Info posted by BerkeleyBee in a different thread. This should be in the Resources section..
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BerkeleyBee's post in CA - Meet the Lawmakers thread
Meeting with Dianne Feinstein's staff
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Feb 15, 2006
Today, four members of IV met with 3 staffers from Dianne Feinstein�s office in San Francisco.
Two constituent services representatives, who deal with immigration problems on a daily basis (helping people with labor cert, I-140, I-485, security check etc problems) and one assistant field representative who interfaces with the Senator�s staff in DC on a whole host of issues.
We spent 1.5 hours with them. We went through our presentation, answering questions and giving examples all the way. Then we spent some time talking about how they could help us, suggestions about what IV should do, and how we could work with them. All in all it was an excellent meeting � they were riveted through out � asked lots of questions and were very supportive.
TAKEAWAYS
1.Getting the Word Out to Lawmakers
� They all said they learned a lot from our presentation � the people who deal with immigration problems on a nitty gritty daily level didn�t know the big picture on legal immigration, and the field representative didn�t know anything about the particular problems of legal EB immigrants.
� The field representative said she had had three meeting with immigration related groups that day already, and that the Senator�s staff has been hearing about immigration a lot BUT this was the first time she was hearing about legal skilled immigrants!!
� They thought our goals were reasonable and that they would be supportive. They thought we should reach out to as many other lawmakers as possible
BOTTOM LINE: Do you want favorable legislation not to pass simply because people didn�t know about our problems??? No! We need to get the word out.
2.Content
� They repeatedly said they were impressed with our presentation (go check it out).
� They liked the fact that we had an easy to read table which showed which of the current bills addressed some of our goals.
� They liked the fact that we printed and bound two copies of the presentation to give them.
� We also gave them copies of our tri-fold brochure
� We also gave them a number tabbed, bound copy of the following
-Must Read Documents on Legal Skilled Immigration
a) CIS Ombudsman's Report:
http://www.dhs.gov/interweb/assetlib...eport_2005.pdf
b) GAO Report on Backlogs at USCIS
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d0620.pdf
c) Exec Summary of NAS Rising Above a Gathering Storm
http://fermat.nap.edu/catalog/11463.html
d) How Visa Date Cutoffs Are Established from July 2000 Bulletin
http://dosfan.lib.uic.edu/ERC/visa_b...7bulletin.html
e) President�s Economic Report: Chapter 2: Skills for the U.S. Workforce.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/cea/ch2-erp06.pdf
3.Action Items
� We decided to keep in touch � I will follow up on the feedback they get from the Senator�s DC staffers.
� They wanted to know more about how our meetings with other lawmakers are going.
� I offered to act as source of facts and examples for their office on these issues � since I have read the relevant documents and data carefully.
� They suggested that we keep reaching out to members of the House � especially those who are in states without a lot of tech sector firms � those are the people who are least likely to know about our existence, let alone our problems.
BOTTOM LINE: I will keep in touch with all three, sharing talking points and getting feedback.
4. Lessons for future meetings with lawmakers/ Lessons for other states
� Do not be intimidated by the idea of initiating a meeting with the staffers of lawmaker � they do this all the time, and are friendly, easy to talk to, it is their job to listen to you� just put yourselves in the mindset of someone telling a story to a friendly audience.
� Get organized, print and bind copies of the presentation and additional docs listed above to give to them.
� Do a dry run of the talk, so that you build a narrative patter to go with the slides � this worked really well in this meeting.
� Whenever possible use examples from the experience of the IV members present to illustrate the point in the slide � for example when we were doing the I-485 Life with and Without Slide, we used Ollie and Neha�s experiences with layoffs and partner not being able to work
� Ask how you can follow up with them, what they would like you to do
� Write to thank them for their time and reiterate your basic points
************************************************** ********
BerkeleyBee's post in CA - Meet the Lawmakers thread
Meeting with Dianne Feinstein's staff
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Feb 15, 2006
Today, four members of IV met with 3 staffers from Dianne Feinstein�s office in San Francisco.
Two constituent services representatives, who deal with immigration problems on a daily basis (helping people with labor cert, I-140, I-485, security check etc problems) and one assistant field representative who interfaces with the Senator�s staff in DC on a whole host of issues.
We spent 1.5 hours with them. We went through our presentation, answering questions and giving examples all the way. Then we spent some time talking about how they could help us, suggestions about what IV should do, and how we could work with them. All in all it was an excellent meeting � they were riveted through out � asked lots of questions and were very supportive.
TAKEAWAYS
1.Getting the Word Out to Lawmakers
� They all said they learned a lot from our presentation � the people who deal with immigration problems on a nitty gritty daily level didn�t know the big picture on legal immigration, and the field representative didn�t know anything about the particular problems of legal EB immigrants.
� The field representative said she had had three meeting with immigration related groups that day already, and that the Senator�s staff has been hearing about immigration a lot BUT this was the first time she was hearing about legal skilled immigrants!!
� They thought our goals were reasonable and that they would be supportive. They thought we should reach out to as many other lawmakers as possible
BOTTOM LINE: Do you want favorable legislation not to pass simply because people didn�t know about our problems??? No! We need to get the word out.
2.Content
� They repeatedly said they were impressed with our presentation (go check it out).
� They liked the fact that we had an easy to read table which showed which of the current bills addressed some of our goals.
� They liked the fact that we printed and bound two copies of the presentation to give them.
� We also gave them copies of our tri-fold brochure
� We also gave them a number tabbed, bound copy of the following
-Must Read Documents on Legal Skilled Immigration
a) CIS Ombudsman's Report:
http://www.dhs.gov/interweb/assetlib...eport_2005.pdf
b) GAO Report on Backlogs at USCIS
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d0620.pdf
c) Exec Summary of NAS Rising Above a Gathering Storm
http://fermat.nap.edu/catalog/11463.html
d) How Visa Date Cutoffs Are Established from July 2000 Bulletin
http://dosfan.lib.uic.edu/ERC/visa_b...7bulletin.html
e) President�s Economic Report: Chapter 2: Skills for the U.S. Workforce.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/cea/ch2-erp06.pdf
3.Action Items
� We decided to keep in touch � I will follow up on the feedback they get from the Senator�s DC staffers.
� They wanted to know more about how our meetings with other lawmakers are going.
� I offered to act as source of facts and examples for their office on these issues � since I have read the relevant documents and data carefully.
� They suggested that we keep reaching out to members of the House � especially those who are in states without a lot of tech sector firms � those are the people who are least likely to know about our existence, let alone our problems.
BOTTOM LINE: I will keep in touch with all three, sharing talking points and getting feedback.
4. Lessons for future meetings with lawmakers/ Lessons for other states
� Do not be intimidated by the idea of initiating a meeting with the staffers of lawmaker � they do this all the time, and are friendly, easy to talk to, it is their job to listen to you� just put yourselves in the mindset of someone telling a story to a friendly audience.
� Get organized, print and bind copies of the presentation and additional docs listed above to give to them.
� Do a dry run of the talk, so that you build a narrative patter to go with the slides � this worked really well in this meeting.
� Whenever possible use examples from the experience of the IV members present to illustrate the point in the slide � for example when we were doing the I-485 Life with and Without Slide, we used Ollie and Neha�s experiences with layoffs and partner not being able to work
� Ask how you can follow up with them, what they would like you to do
� Write to thank them for their time and reiterate your basic points
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austingc
06-10 05:01 PM
Hello All,
I was reading at some of the posts in this forum and they seem to have been quiet helpful.
My company has decided to go ahead with my GC process.
Its in the very early stage, but my immigration specialist gave me a heads up regarding something.
She said, that as I have a 3 yrs BE degree the USCIS may not recognize me under EB2 category :confused: So I explained her the education system in India, but she said that it depends upon the Credential Evaluation Agency which will process my educational qualification and prepare a report and submit it to USCIS.
Following this USCIS will make a decision whether to grant EB2 or EB3 category.
I am sure many of the members may have faced a similar Dilemma....Is there any specific solution to this?
To be precise I completed my Diploma from Mumbai & Degree from Pune University, followed by MS in US and currently working on H1B.
Please Advice.
Thanks,
Shakti
You can just show your masters degree and file under EB2. The important thing is the job should require a Masters Degree. Then the USCIS do not care what undergraduate degree you have.
I was reading at some of the posts in this forum and they seem to have been quiet helpful.
My company has decided to go ahead with my GC process.
Its in the very early stage, but my immigration specialist gave me a heads up regarding something.
She said, that as I have a 3 yrs BE degree the USCIS may not recognize me under EB2 category :confused: So I explained her the education system in India, but she said that it depends upon the Credential Evaluation Agency which will process my educational qualification and prepare a report and submit it to USCIS.
Following this USCIS will make a decision whether to grant EB2 or EB3 category.
I am sure many of the members may have faced a similar Dilemma....Is there any specific solution to this?
To be precise I completed my Diploma from Mumbai & Degree from Pune University, followed by MS in US and currently working on H1B.
Please Advice.
Thanks,
Shakti
You can just show your masters degree and file under EB2. The important thing is the job should require a Masters Degree. Then the USCIS do not care what undergraduate degree you have.
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ikass
06-01 08:32 PM
Can IV help with reaching out to Media or leading magazine to provide some light into the plight of legal immigration? We don`t see articles written or spoken about our plight. IV can direct some resources to this effort and I`m sure we can provide 100s of unique stories of aspiring legal immigrants waiting for some action. Especially, if it can help congress pass 1 or 2 small amendments with other bills this Summer. Fellow IV members who are in the same situation, please share your ideas for legislation.
chanduv23
08-06 10:02 AM
I will be there
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dhesha
08-29 02:46 PM
So if the date is July 2, what does it mean? Does it mean they are processing cases that are received on July 2 or those who have Notice date of July 2?
Is July 2 included or excluded?
Is July 2 included or excluded?
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ho_gaya_kaya_?
11-21 07:32 AM
I think the job market is going to change a lot- in next few months
There will be plenty of people waiting for last so many years- who will be out to switch
and also who are or were not planning to change- will now start thinking now that they have the opportunity...:)
This will create new job positions as well as make the market very competitive - since there will be many positions
Nevertheless- I dont think its going to make a significant or any chnage in economy - since this will only initiate a job movement and not new job creation
So Ladies and Gentelmen- I think we have very intresting few months in front of us
BTW_ I created a poll- if you are intrested in participating...
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=15612
There will be plenty of people waiting for last so many years- who will be out to switch
and also who are or were not planning to change- will now start thinking now that they have the opportunity...:)
This will create new job positions as well as make the market very competitive - since there will be many positions
Nevertheless- I dont think its going to make a significant or any chnage in economy - since this will only initiate a job movement and not new job creation
So Ladies and Gentelmen- I think we have very intresting few months in front of us
BTW_ I created a poll- if you are intrested in participating...
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=15612
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GCAmigo
08-03 12:21 PM
FIFO - FirstInFirstOut & LIFO - LastInFirstOut
Folks at USCIS follow a random method ie AIAO - AnytimeInAnytimeOut.
Enjoy the wait!
Folks at USCIS follow a random method ie AIAO - AnytimeInAnytimeOut.
Enjoy the wait!
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TeddyKoochu
06-25 03:47 PM
Are the locations of your employer and client in the same city, otherwise the LCA submitted at the time of H1B extension becomes inconsistent. I believe your best bet is to file a new H1 if possible, MTR likely looks difficult as your current situation is different from what was petitioned. New H1 being approved may also depend on how big your company is internal project to them for consulting companies to them is synonymous with bench. All the best I believe you need a qualified attorney to assist you.
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jgh_res
04-16 07:42 AM
existing thread:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=19011
All:
My parents are going to visit USA first time. Does anyone of you suggest Medical Insurance information ? I am not sure which company I should choose for visitor Medical Insurance.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=19011
All:
My parents are going to visit USA first time. Does anyone of you suggest Medical Insurance information ? I am not sure which company I should choose for visitor Medical Insurance.
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gc28262
08-27 06:37 PM
Use FOIA form to get a copy of your I-140 approval notice. It is a slow process. Can take upto a year to get the document.
USCIS - Freedom of Information and Privacy Acts (FOIA) (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextchannel=34139c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a 1RCRD&vgnextoid=34139c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCRD )
USCIS - Freedom of Information and Privacy Acts (FOIA) (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextchannel=34139c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a 1RCRD&vgnextoid=34139c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCRD )
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Oct007
11-11 08:53 PM
I have followed what many people suggested and applied for the H1B renewal.
Now I have to travel to India in the last week of November. I have a valid EAD and AP document. My H1B will be expiring and the renewal will be filed but I wont be receiving the approval.
I can use the AP and renter U.S but will that result in a cancellation of my H1B renewal?
Now I have to travel to India in the last week of November. I have a valid EAD and AP document. My H1B will be expiring and the renewal will be filed but I wont be receiving the approval.
I can use the AP and renter U.S but will that result in a cancellation of my H1B renewal?
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sundar99
05-01 01:33 PM
I thought even though you are a Indian Citizen, if you are already working in US, you can go to the Canada and apply from US Embassy in Vancouver or in Toronto. The wait times are really short, you can get an appoinment in less than 2 weeks.
1. It could be a H1 extension revalidation
2. H4 to h1 Visa stamping.
I have heard folks do it before. I have not done it myself, so cannot vouch for it though.
THis may be a cheaper alternative than going to India.
1. It could be a H1 extension revalidation
2. H4 to h1 Visa stamping.
I have heard folks do it before. I have not done it myself, so cannot vouch for it though.
THis may be a cheaper alternative than going to India.
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tulips
05-24 03:02 PM
Hi,
My H1 B is expiring on 30 Sep 2010. I have not started my green card process. Is it too late to start now? Can I get extension based on number of days I have been out of country in last 6 years.? (119 days) If I include that is it still late to start and not worth my time and money? What are my options? If I leave the country and come back after 1 year, I will be counted for the H1 B quota? I have MS in CSE from univsersity in USA. My husband applied for GC and I have dependent EAD till Oct 2010 but then he moved out of USA last year and got H4 to come visit. Is that application still valid for me to be able to get EAD extension? Can he still come back on H1 B or EAD? Any help/advice on my situation will be very helpful.
Thanks!
My H1 B is expiring on 30 Sep 2010. I have not started my green card process. Is it too late to start now? Can I get extension based on number of days I have been out of country in last 6 years.? (119 days) If I include that is it still late to start and not worth my time and money? What are my options? If I leave the country and come back after 1 year, I will be counted for the H1 B quota? I have MS in CSE from univsersity in USA. My husband applied for GC and I have dependent EAD till Oct 2010 but then he moved out of USA last year and got H4 to come visit. Is that application still valid for me to be able to get EAD extension? Can he still come back on H1 B or EAD? Any help/advice on my situation will be very helpful.
Thanks!
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gveerab
01-18 03:47 AM
See you there on sunday.
This is an wonderful opportunity to help your self.
Please participate and show your support.
This is an wonderful opportunity to help your self.
Please participate and show your support.
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coolest_me
07-01 05:45 PM
if you are in California then fwd this to your employer
http://ezinearticles.com/?Legality-of-NonCompete-Agreements-in-California&id=74000
Non-Compete agreements are void in California. I had the same situation as you and in my case my vendor (new employer) helped me based on this law. I m in California
http://ezinearticles.com/?Legality-of-NonCompete-Agreements-in-California&id=74000
Non-Compete agreements are void in California. I had the same situation as you and in my case my vendor (new employer) helped me based on this law. I m in California
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pcjandyala
07-23 10:48 AM
Rayyan,
It's always better to change the name in the passport (contact Passport office/Indian Embessy near by you) reflecting correctly when you have time now Otherwise it's really create problems in future either in GC or traveling to other countries etc.
Please look for procedure on Indian Embessy web site (if you are in USA) otherwise passport website in india.
My 2 cents
Thanks
It's always better to change the name in the passport (contact Passport office/Indian Embessy near by you) reflecting correctly when you have time now Otherwise it's really create problems in future either in GC or traveling to other countries etc.
Please look for procedure on Indian Embessy web site (if you are in USA) otherwise passport website in india.
My 2 cents
Thanks
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ashkam
04-01 03:24 PM
Really? Nobody? Nothing? :( Please, any advice will do, I'm desperate, I don't want to leave in 2 weeks, I need some more time with my partner...
You already have the answer : It is 180 days after your I-94 expires, not the day of your arrival.
You already have the answer : It is 180 days after your I-94 expires, not the day of your arrival.
willgetgc2005
11-01 02:10 PM
I have a question about my Mother in laws' visit to the USA.She has a 10 year multi entry tourist visa (B1, validity from 2005 to 2015) to the US and she has visited the US 3 times so far and the dates are as follows
February 18, 2006 to August 16, 2006 (visited her sons family in East)
July 8, 2007 to January 7, 2008 (stayed with us)
August 2, 2008 to February 01, 2009 (stayed with us)
She is currently on her 3rd visit to the USA and is living with us. Her departure date is January 2009. On her visit this time, at the port of entry (LAX) she was asked by the Immigration officer if she was visiting USA so often because of her grand child. She said yes and the immigration officer stamped her a 6 month stay and also told her to be careful of future visits so often to the United States. My mother in law is a widow and both her children live in the US as permanent residents.
Our baby recently had a health issue and was hospitalized. But due to all this with my wife and I both working, my wife feels it would be good if we could get my mother in law an extension of stay (perhaps 3months plus beyond January 2009)till my wife can complete her internship (which is time bound). My mother in laws� son lives in the east coast and he is a permanent resident in the USA.
I do not want to jeopardize her ability to visit the US in future due to an extension. So the question are:
Will a request for extension be approved by USCIS?
Will this jeopardize her chances of coming to the US in future?
IF she gets an extension this time, what will be the cooling off period for her to come to the US next time
How long does it take for USCIS to process a request for extension and what is the processing fee
Your response is greatly appreciated.
February 18, 2006 to August 16, 2006 (visited her sons family in East)
July 8, 2007 to January 7, 2008 (stayed with us)
August 2, 2008 to February 01, 2009 (stayed with us)
She is currently on her 3rd visit to the USA and is living with us. Her departure date is January 2009. On her visit this time, at the port of entry (LAX) she was asked by the Immigration officer if she was visiting USA so often because of her grand child. She said yes and the immigration officer stamped her a 6 month stay and also told her to be careful of future visits so often to the United States. My mother in law is a widow and both her children live in the US as permanent residents.
Our baby recently had a health issue and was hospitalized. But due to all this with my wife and I both working, my wife feels it would be good if we could get my mother in law an extension of stay (perhaps 3months plus beyond January 2009)till my wife can complete her internship (which is time bound). My mother in laws� son lives in the east coast and he is a permanent resident in the USA.
I do not want to jeopardize her ability to visit the US in future due to an extension. So the question are:
Will a request for extension be approved by USCIS?
Will this jeopardize her chances of coming to the US in future?
IF she gets an extension this time, what will be the cooling off period for her to come to the US next time
How long does it take for USCIS to process a request for extension and what is the processing fee
Your response is greatly appreciated.
sujan_vatrapu
10-27 11:17 AM
You probably know what you are getting, but there are others who believe all the lies that FOX spreads - don't always look through the prism of your problems...
At least on the other news outlets, they bring 2 sides of opinions, unlike FOX - which only shows one side of the issues 25% of the time, and the host spews his/her talking points for the rest of the 75% of the show!
Having said that, I would much prefer for the news outlets (ABC, CNN, NBC, CBS, NPR ..) to not only give 2 sides of the story, but actually do some investigative journalism and come to conclusions. Ask the tough questions and if all they get is talking points cut them off.........
Again you missed the point, main news media outlets have liberal views on issues, they don't bring conservative view but they say so, i watch CNN, CBS, listen to NPR, I am not saying FOX is the best but they are as good as the rest, agn my point is all the channels have left or right view (NONE have a centrist view), we should not discount FOX because they have conservative views,
in a recent survey more than half surveyed picked FOX as the most trusted new channel, if we think they are fools there is definitely something with us!
At least on the other news outlets, they bring 2 sides of opinions, unlike FOX - which only shows one side of the issues 25% of the time, and the host spews his/her talking points for the rest of the 75% of the show!
Having said that, I would much prefer for the news outlets (ABC, CNN, NBC, CBS, NPR ..) to not only give 2 sides of the story, but actually do some investigative journalism and come to conclusions. Ask the tough questions and if all they get is talking points cut them off.........
Again you missed the point, main news media outlets have liberal views on issues, they don't bring conservative view but they say so, i watch CNN, CBS, listen to NPR, I am not saying FOX is the best but they are as good as the rest, agn my point is all the channels have left or right view (NONE have a centrist view), we should not discount FOX because they have conservative views,
in a recent survey more than half surveyed picked FOX as the most trusted new channel, if we think they are fools there is definitely something with us!
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